Hey everyone! We are seeking feedback regarding this initial Jackal Protocol Economics V2 draft.
Please take time to read through the paper and provide critical feedback for iterations.
Hey everyone! We are seeking feedback regarding this initial Jackal Protocol Economics V2 draft.
Please take time to read through the paper and provide critical feedback for iterations.
Dear team,
Thank you for the opportunity to provide feedback on the proposal to lower jackalâs inflation rate. Whileprice stability is an important consideration, I believe keeping inflation at 40% is most prudent for jackalâs long-term viability as a decentralized storage network.
Unlike traditional currencies, jackal relies on continuous token issuance to incentivize participation and secure stored data through its PoS consensus. Reducing annual inflation risks weakening these incentives over time. At 40%, validators and full nodes are adequately compensated for hosting loads of redundant data and securing the network - especially as jackal continues to grow.
Too dramatic of a cut could lead to significant drops in active validation and storage provision. With data stored in a trustless, encrypted manner across the network, redundancy is key. Fewer providers would compromise this redundancy and resilience. It also concentrates power in the hands of fewer stakeholders, weakening the decentralization jackal was designed for.
A more cautious, staged approach - such as testing reductions to 35% or 30% first - would allow any impacts on network health to be identified and addressed before going lower. This helps ensure jackalâs stored data remains just as secure, private and censorship-resistant as when users first chose the network.
While 20% inflation may stabilize price in the near term, jackalâs longevity depends more on maintaining robust security through ongoing participation incentives. I believe 40% strikes the right balance, and avoids risks to the network that could damage user confidence long-term.
For these reasons, I suggest keeping jackalâs annual inflation at 40% for now. A more measured evaluation of network health indicators could then inform any future adjustments. Maintaining security should be the top priority as adoption grows.
Please let me know if you would like to discuss this perspective further. Iâm happy to elaborate on any part of the rationale.
Hey guys itâs Saul from telegram. I wanted to share why I think we should keep inflation at 40%
Incentivizing Participation:
Higher inflation rate encourages active engagement from validators and stakers.
Stronger incentives through block subsidies and staking rewards.
Fosters a vibrant and active ecosystem.
Enhancing Network Security:
Driving Liquidity and Token Demand:
Fostering Governance and Decision-making:
Thanks for your feedback!
Some of my own, is that this wouldnât actually significantly lower the profitability of supplying storage for most providers, itâs primarily staking rewards that would decrease. Even the updated staking rewards will be higher than many other Cosmos chains which have shown their chains to be secure.
I am a contributor to this model, but also very strongly care about the security of both the Jackal protocol and the chain, and donât think that these cuts could realistically put either at risk on their own.
If you are a storage provider and/or know others who believe that this will somehow price them out of contributing, Iâd love to see analysis as to why/how.
Hi @Patrick
This is PM from MantaDAO, love to see Jackal coming up with an upgrade to his economic model, and thanks for the opportunity to provide feedback.
I have a contrarian take to the first two comments by @Cryptodegan and @Saul, which I will explain.
I believe (i) attaching real cash flows to the token (albeit indirectly by directing 60% of revenue to POL, which is an interesting design choice) and (ii) reducing inflation, tackles the two major issues of the original economic model.
My main concern is regarding inflation, I think the current proposal doesnât do enough to cut it and this is likely to lead to a continuation of the structural downward price pressure for JKL (net of any interim upside volatility as we have been experiencing across the entire space recently). Iâll be sharing my thinking starting with some fundamental economic principles and going into the specifics for Jackal.
On Fundamental Value
On Token Inflation
On Token Liquidity
Reviewing Jackal Economics V2 through that lens
Recommendations
Hope this is helpful. I am a big fan of the Jackal vision for decentralized storage and really want to see you succeed, this is really something we need <3
Interesting view points. Thanks for commenting and weâll review this!
Hey everyone, before our next iteration, I wanted to summarize and aggregate the feedback we have received from multiple channels.
Maintain Higher Inflation Rate : Suggestion to keeping the inflation rate at 40% to incentivize participation, ensure network security, and maintain a vibrant ecosystem.
Concerns About Inflation and Token Value: Advocatcy for reducing inflation, arguing that high inflation leads to downward price pressure and suggesting halving the proposed year-one inflation.
Emphasis on Referral Program: Recommendations focusing more on referrals, currently at 15%, as a critical driver for dynamic growth.
Grants Program: Suggestions for creating a separate grants category, distinct from the community pool, for high ROI and to incentivize builders.
Balanced Approach to POL and Staking: Questions about the high allocation to POL and staking, with a suggestion to dynamically manage POL based on market conditions.
Need for Transparency and Data Tracking: Recommendations for a dashboard to track revenue, key metrics, and network health for informed governance decisions.
Real Yield for Stakers: It would be great to see a portion of the storage module revenues going to Stakers instead of POL.
If anyone wants to add more recommendations, reply to this message!
Our inflation is already wildly high, it needs to be reduced dramatically. This hits nobody harder then me and I am fine with it. If we donât get a handle on it, then we will have the perfect network that nobody will use because we diluted our storage providers into obscurity and donât have any left. If folks are supporting this network simply for the amount of money then can drain out of the system, best to clear em out now before we start to scale. The token price will take a hit as they leave but itâs taken hits before and keeps soldiering back, best to get it over with and have providers and validators who align with the network and want to see it successful.
Focus on CUSTOMERS. This should be the NUMBER 1 priority of Jackal at this point, all of the rest of this argument is academic. âBuild it and they will comeâ will not play in this market due to the amount of competition. Focus on education. Focus on âspecialsâ. Focus on outreach. We have 100 validators in this set, how many active customers do we have? What is our DAU? There should be no larger priority for us at this point.
Get our validator set aligned. How can you validate a chain yet not take 5 minutes to pop into an AMA discussing the future of the chain? The progress? What is coming up? What should you plan for? There is an average of 20 people on the weekly Jackal AMAâs, and that includes the developers. For this to be successful long term, it will require maximum participation and maximum outreach from the validators that are getting paid to support it. Participation drives discussion, drives energy, gets people talking and generates CUSTOMERS. We need to lead from the front.
A crypto project with low inflation can face a multitude of challenges and negative consequences. Firstly, network security may be compromised as a result of fewer participants willing to validate transactions, leaving the network vulnerable to potential attacks. Additionally, limited token distribution can lead to token concentration, hampering decentralization efforts and restricting access to tokens. Low inflation discourages active network participation, reducing user engagement and community involvement. Insufficient incentives for network participants can diminish their motivation to contribute resources, time, or expertise to the project. In terms of development, inadequate funding may hinder the projectâs ability to innovate, improve, and scale its technology. Furthermore, with limited liquidity in the market, trading and exchanging the cryptocurrency become more challenging. Price volatility may increase due to the scarcity of tokens and susceptibility to market fluctuations and manipulations. Expanding the user base becomes difficult, as there are fewer incentives for new users to join the ecosystem. Attracting validators, who play a crucial role in network security, becomes a challenge. The lack of resources for research and development stifles innovation and prevents the project from keeping up with market demands. Reduced community engagement, centralization risks, and decreased investor interest are additional concerns. Furthermore, the project may struggle to fund marketing efforts, hindering its visibility and adoption. Governance processes may suffer from low participation, impacting the projectâs ability to evolve. The competitive edge can be lost to projects with higher inflation rates that offer more attractive rewards. Limited resources for partnerships and community initiatives, along with the risk of token price manipulation, further complicate matters. Ultimately, low inflation can undermine the projectâs long-term viability, sustainability, and overall success.
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staking apr should be as low as possible - reward the validators and stakers just enough to keep things secure. the quality of investors looking for âhigh staking rewardsâ is not who you want as token holders.
if we assume usdc or other tokens will be an optional fee token for use of platform, will Jackal buy JKL with the revenues in USDC?
maybe could add a feature where JKL holders get a percentage of all JKL revenue earned?
Agreed, weâve been thinking about taking usdc as fees as well but the focus is mostly on taking payment in usdc as well. The pool of real yield can buy back JKL if the community votes for it. I think weâre considering adding a new route where jackal stakers get some revenue, not just holders of the token.
Iâm seeing better arguments here in favor of reducing inflation.
Had no pre-coinceived idea about this so thanks to all the participants for sharing their input.
I have not strong opinions on the quantity of tokens, but I think the vestings dates are crucial and they are missing from the paper (toghether with a graph of the sum of token releases over time, with normal conditions and maybe some scenarios - if they could change based on any driver )
All of the vesting schedules and such are outlined in the original paper, this new paper only references updates to the original paper. It might be a good idea to consolidate them for clarity.
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